Comments on: Driving into the Hydrogen Future http://ncjournal.wordpress.com/2008/09/04/driving-into-the-hydrogen-future/ being the temporary home of the NCJ's weblog Fri, 13 Feb 2009 03:33:46 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: unanonymous http://ncjournal.wordpress.com/2008/09/04/driving-into-the-hydrogen-future/#comment-3366 unanonymous Wed, 17 Sep 2008 18:26:13 +0000 http://ncjournal.wordpress.com/?p=724#comment-3366 waxjobber, while your comments were really meant as an ignorant attack against people who see things differently, you have a point, Chinese farmers keep pigs under their houses and collect the gaseous waste from pig flatulence and dung decay and use to fire their cooking stoves. no joke. waxjobber, while your comments were really meant as an ignorant attack against people who see things differently, you have a point, Chinese farmers keep pigs under their houses and collect the gaseous waste from pig flatulence and dung decay and use to fire their cooking stoves. no joke.

]]> By: waxjobber http://ncjournal.wordpress.com/2008/09/04/driving-into-the-hydrogen-future/#comment-3351 waxjobber Sun, 14 Sep 2008 06:21:12 +0000 http://ncjournal.wordpress.com/?p=724#comment-3351 Just fill them up with all the flatulence that is found in these blogs. Instead of typing just hook your azz up to the car, eat a bunch of beans from a dirty taco wagon and blow, baby, blow. That wil get you 29-30 miles in your Flatulence car right there. And you'll feel better getting that bad gas out of your system. dig it or die...metaphorically Just fill them up with all the flatulence that is found in these blogs. Instead of typing just hook your azz up to the car, eat a bunch of beans from a dirty taco wagon and blow, baby, blow. That wil get you 29-30 miles in your Flatulence car right there. And you’ll feel better getting that bad gas out of your system.

dig it or die…metaphorically

]]> By: Not A Native http://ncjournal.wordpress.com/2008/09/04/driving-into-the-hydrogen-future/#comment-3349 Not A Native Sun, 14 Sep 2008 02:51:15 +0000 http://ncjournal.wordpress.com/?p=724#comment-3349 Hydrogen gas is a manufactured substance. Its not an "energy source" found in natural abundance like sunlight, wind, organic hydrocarbons, tidal and precipitation water flows, and fissionable elements. Hydrogen gas is better compared to the chemicals inside a nonrechargeable battery. As to local efforts, they're a joke. No one at SERC has done anything notable to advance technology. No one outside Humboldt knows or cares about SERC. The press releases of advances and discoveries are local boosterism hype. As a small testing and concept validation facility they do some local projects to install simple fuel cells, but advances in fuel cell technology are made by materials scientists and commercial manufacturers. Hydrogen gas is a manufactured substance. Its not an “energy source” found in natural abundance like sunlight, wind, organic hydrocarbons, tidal and precipitation water flows, and fissionable elements. Hydrogen gas is better compared to the chemicals inside a nonrechargeable battery.

As to local efforts, they’re a joke. No one at SERC has done anything notable to advance technology. No one outside Humboldt knows or cares about SERC. The press releases of advances and discoveries are local boosterism hype. As a small testing and concept validation facility they do some local projects to install simple fuel cells, but advances in fuel cell technology are made by materials scientists and commercial manufacturers.

]]> By: unanonymous http://ncjournal.wordpress.com/2008/09/04/driving-into-the-hydrogen-future/#comment-3343 unanonymous Sat, 13 Sep 2008 23:30:18 +0000 http://ncjournal.wordpress.com/?p=724#comment-3343 Matt, where we gonna make all that electricity with? Coal fired power plants? Matt, where we gonna make all that electricity with? Coal fired power plants?

]]> By: unanonymous http://ncjournal.wordpress.com/2008/09/04/driving-into-the-hydrogen-future/#comment-3342 unanonymous Sat, 13 Sep 2008 23:29:25 +0000 http://ncjournal.wordpress.com/?p=724#comment-3342 so we (tax payers) just bought Rollins a ~$75,000 car that only goes 100 miles and fills up a station that cost for about $1.25 million to buy (if it generates its own hydrogen) or $150,000 if it doesn't (Atlantic Hydrogen prices). nice, that's sustainable. so we (tax payers) just bought Rollins a ~$75,000 car that only goes 100 miles and fills up a station that cost for about $1.25 million to buy (if it generates its own hydrogen) or $150,000 if it doesn’t (Atlantic Hydrogen prices). nice, that’s sustainable.

]]> By: They put on dog and | energystartups.com http://ncjournal.wordpress.com/2008/09/04/driving-into-the-hydrogen-future/#comment-3329 They put on dog and | energystartups.com Thu, 11 Sep 2008 13:15:32 +0000 http://ncjournal.wordpress.com/?p=724#comment-3329 [...] Driving into the Hydrogen Future [...] [...] Driving into the Hydrogen Future [...]

]]> By: Matt Dernoga http://ncjournal.wordpress.com/2008/09/04/driving-into-the-hydrogen-future/#comment-3309 Matt Dernoga Sat, 06 Sep 2008 22:22:40 +0000 http://ncjournal.wordpress.com/?p=724#comment-3309 Hydrogen is still too far off to solve our energy problems. There aren't enough fueling stations, it takes energy to separate the hydrogen from the oxygen to get the fuel, the cars are far to expensive for the market, and the hydrogen isn't compressed enough for a car to go an acceptable distance on it. Rather than invest in Hydrogen, we should focus on making the Plug-In hybrids that are coming out in 2010 from GM and Toyota more affordable. They get 150 mpg and all you need as a darn outlet. This is what the next generation of vehicles will be, not hydrogen. By the time we actually make hydrogen economical, we'll be driving electric cars. Hydrogen is still too far off to solve our energy problems. There aren’t enough fueling stations, it takes energy to separate the hydrogen from the oxygen to get the fuel, the cars are far to expensive for the market, and the hydrogen isn’t compressed enough for a car to go an acceptable distance on it.

Rather than invest in Hydrogen, we should focus on making the Plug-In hybrids that are coming out in 2010 from GM and Toyota more affordable. They get 150 mpg and all you need as a darn outlet. This is what the next generation of vehicles will be, not hydrogen. By the time we actually make hydrogen economical, we’ll be driving electric cars.

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]]> By: Thomas W.P. Slatin » Blog Archive » Speedlinks #1 http://ncjournal.wordpress.com/2008/09/04/driving-into-the-hydrogen-future/#comment-3307 Thomas W.P. Slatin » Blog Archive » Speedlinks #1 Sat, 06 Sep 2008 15:04:49 +0000 http://ncjournal.wordpress.com/?p=724#comment-3307 [...] Driving into the Hydrogen Future Finally!  Hydrogen powered cars.  Hope technology is really ready for this one.  I’m ready to switch to alternative fuel sources ASAP the way gas prices are going these days. [...] [...] Driving into the Hydrogen Future Finally!  Hydrogen powered cars.  Hope technology is really ready for this one.  I’m ready to switch to alternative fuel sources ASAP the way gas prices are going these days. [...]

]]> By: Aaron Antrim http://ncjournal.wordpress.com/2008/09/04/driving-into-the-hydrogen-future/#comment-3299 Aaron Antrim Fri, 05 Sep 2008 03:11:25 +0000 http://ncjournal.wordpress.com/?p=724#comment-3299 <a href="http://www.green-wheels.org/node/420" rel="nofollow">Is hydrogen a hoax?</a> No, it’s not, and SERC does great and necessary work. But hydrogen sure is hyped up. Here are some of the <a href="http://www.green-wheels.org/node/420" rel="nofollow">ways of getting</a> orders of magnitude more benefits than the Prius on display can get. Is hydrogen a hoax? No, it’s not, and SERC does great and necessary work. But hydrogen sure is hyped up. Here are some of the ways of getting orders of magnitude more benefits than the Prius on display can get.

]]> By: Chris Rall http://ncjournal.wordpress.com/2008/09/04/driving-into-the-hydrogen-future/#comment-3298 Chris Rall Fri, 05 Sep 2008 03:11:16 +0000 http://ncjournal.wordpress.com/?p=724#comment-3298 I wasn't aware that our hydrogen car is stranded up here at the north end of "Hydrogen Highway." I posted a few thoughts over at our blog: http://www.green-wheels.org/node/420 I wasn’t aware that our hydrogen car is stranded up here at the north end of “Hydrogen Highway.”
I posted a few thoughts over at our blog:
http://www.green-wheels.org/node/420

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